原帖由 sunrisesunset 于 2007-11-7 16:29 发表
支持！
有点像大串联的感觉，嘿嘿
如果不是病的七荤八素，偶也想去呢:gawp:

原帖由 低调啊低调 于 2007-11-7 16:44 发表
这次不能再低调了。。

原帖由 Guo 于 2007-11-7 16:50 发表


:astonishment:  太阳mm怎么可以病倒？ 还想着到你们的地盘上联手呢。让俺这样当逃兵也实在脸红。

好好养病。这几天下雨你不用上班了。呵呵

原帖由 sunrisesunset 于 2007-11-7 17:04 发表

嗯，一不小心...
可惜啊，否则可以见到好多人呢，一起并肩作战的感觉一定很好。

原帖由 Guo 于 2007-11-7 17:23 发表


  —— 其实，需要义愤填膺，但是不需要声嘶力竭，有时候有些严肃的行动，离你也很近，也很生活，需要的，反而是一点生活化的情趣

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-7 21:56 发表


This is funny and childish.
German presse might not be 100% fair to P.R.China and its people, but is chinese propaganda fair to themselves and always tell the true story?
Instead of trying to be ...

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-7 22:31 发表



a typical dialog after the domonstration:

Mrs Lang: " Ich verstehe nicht warum die Chinesen auf die Straße gegangen sind".
Mrs Kurz: "Weil sie wissen, hier in Hamburg kann gar nichts p ...

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-7 21:56 发表


This is funny and childish.
German presse might not be 100% fair to P.R.China and its people, but is chinese propaganda fair to themselves and always tell the true story?
Instead of trying to be ...

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-7 22:31 发表



a typical dialog after the domonstration:

Mrs Lang: " Ich verstehe nicht warum die Chinesen auf die Straße gegangen sind".
Mrs Kurz: "Weil sie wissen, hier in Hamburg kann gar nichts p ...

原帖由 Goodyear 于 2007-11-7 22:40 发表
汉堡港每年销毁多少万吨来自我们那里的假货?

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-7 21:56 发表


This is funny and childish.
German presse might not be 100% fair to P.R.China and its people, but is chinese propaganda fair to themselves and always tell the true story?
Instead of trying to be ...

原帖由 arashizoo 于 2007-11-8 00:07 发表


I don't see any problems of Chinese students taking advantages of German freedom of expression and demonstrate against German press freedom. It's a logical action to make use of the system to prot ...

原帖由 Guo 于 2007-11-8 16:48 发表


press freedom 这个也是我们要辨明的主题，Pressefreiheit =/= Verhetzungsfreiheit， 同理，新闻自由也不等于诽谤自由！
那位cjn倒是很典型地替我们提前表明了站在一个心胸狭隘的德国人的立场上的态度。如果你 ...

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-8 23:03 发表


you are a typical chinese who can not speak without insulting talk-partner with dirty  words.

but fist in your asshole?   it sounds interesting! but why do you do this  ...

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-8 22:03 发表

Don´t you think you are "too simple and somewhat too naive"?
you don´t have to tell us Pressefreiheit =/= Verhetzungsfreiheit, it is so sure like Amen in church, but that is not the topic really important in this context.

The question interesting here is: what do the chinese students want to achieve through the demonstration?
The question interesting might also be: is demonstration an affective means to acquire their aim? (further question: if not, what are the affective means?)
Last but not least: which adverse consequences or positive influences could accur ? how do the transformation look like?

If you have already considered all these questions and change your idea, I would admire that you begin to act strategically; otherwise you still make the same dicision, then I could only say "good luck" to you:-)

This is funny and childish.
German presse might not be 100% fair to P.R.China and its people, but is chinese propaganda fair to themselves and always tell the true story?
Instead of trying to better their own situation and set their own country free, chinese students in Germany take the advantage of German freedom to demonstrate against German freedom.
No wonder the world will treat this as a joke. A day later in every German newspaper you will read commentars like "Chinesen in Deutschland demonstrieren gegen Deutsche Pressefreiheit" or "Chinesen wollen nicht nur industrielle Produkte sondern auch Zensur nach Deutschland exportieren" .
Here we chinese just forget our old wisdom " Don't complain about the snow on your neighbor's roof when your own doorstep is unclean.

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-7 21:56 发表


This is funny and childish.
German presse might not be 100% fair to P.R.China and its people, butis chinese propaganda fair to themselves and always tell the true story?
Instead of trying to better their own situation and set their owncountry free, chinese students in Germany take the advantage of Germanfreedom to demonstrate against German freedom.
No wonder the world will treat this as a joke. A day later in everyGerman newspaper you will read commentars like "Chinesen in Deutschlanddemonstrieren gegen Deutsche Pressefreiheit" or "Chinesen wollen nichtnur industrielle Produkte sondern auch Zensur nach Deutschlandexportieren" .
Here we chinese  just forget  our old wisdom  " Don't complain aboutthe snow on your neighbor's roof when your own doorstep is unclean.

原帖由 Moses 于 2007-11-9 10:53 发表


洋洋洒洒的一篇英文, 不难看出你的观点:   在中国自己还有问题的时候, 中国学生不是去为自己在中国的处境争取,为中国的自由化争取, 而是利用德国的"自由制度"反对德国的"自由制度" (你的原文: Instead of trying ...

原帖由 陈进男 于 2007-11-9 22:15 发表



我敢打堵，你的担忧不是没有道理的。
游行不异于南原北车，离开希望的目的越来越远。