oywz

原帖由 东门吹牛 于 2006-7-8 20:44 发表
第一题：非常有名的宗教难题，无解！ 听好了，万能的上帝能否制造出一块连他自己也举不起来的石头？

第二题：是中世纪教会里非常热门的一个辩论题。 一个针尖上能站几个天使？这个题目我心里有答案，各位可以猜 ...

In the Bible, there are many such problems.
If we just consider these as fairy stories, that is OK. But when we think about them seriously, it will cause many problems.

For these real christians, their religion has masked the judgement about the normal rules and laws. I think that's also one of the most important reasons why the religions sometimes lead to some social and history conflicts.

So, we can only consider LZ's questions as jokes. Don't be serious. tongue.gif

oywz

原帖由 boilingsnow 于 2006-7-10 00:43 发表


另外，蚂蚁无法理解人类做事的目的和方法，并非是对蚂蚁这种生物的不尊重，这只是阐述客观事实。这跟对生物的不尊重风马牛不相及，是你自己理解成这是对蚂蚁的贬低了，说明是你在心里把蚂蚁贬低了——不尊重蚂 ...

It is not suitable to compare the relation between ants and human beings with the relation between human beings and your God.
How is an ant thinking??? How is the human thinking? And how is the God thinking?
The God you are believing is perhaps unpleasant with your comparison.

[ 本帖最后由 oywz 于 2006-7-10 09:55 编辑 ]

oywz

原帖由 boilingsnow 于 2006-7-10 00:38 发表


这是一个比喻，那换成树木好了——哦，树木也是生命，那怎么办？换成石头吧！

当别人的言论有一丝跟你所信的事物有冲突的时候，你就要别人接受你的思想，认为别人是“侮辱”，甚至还要别人“收回”说出的话 ...

Indeed you are doing the same thing.
In the Bible, one who does not believe your religion will be put into the hell in future.......That is a much more serious curse in some way.
"one hundred steps" is laughing at "Fifty steps"........ It is more unpleasant than the case of "Fifty steps"  laughing at "one hundred steps".

[ 本帖最后由 oywz 于 2006-7-10 10:10 编辑 ]

oywz

原帖由 boilingsnow 于 2006-7-10 11:02 发表


这个并非为类比，只是为了形象地说明人对上帝的行为、目的和行事方法一无所知，举例只是让人更好地明白这一点，而你却去纠结”蚂蚁“这个在这里非本质的问题。而且在这里，我所提的上帝已经是非特指某一宗教的 ...

What you are talking is reasonable.
People only want to believe what they want to believe on the condition that they are not able to be sure about.......

So it is often no use to disscussing the God with the christians. That is one of the character of the religions, including some other kinds of religions.

[ 本帖最后由 oywz 于 2006-7-10 17:19 编辑 ]

oywz

原帖由 东门吹牛 于 2006-7-8 20:44 发表
第一题：非常有名的宗教难题，无解！ 听好了，万能的上帝能否制造出一块连他自己也举不起来的石头？

第二题：是中世纪教会里非常热门的一个辩论题。 一个针尖上能站几个天使？这个题目我心里有答案，各位可以猜 ...

The last question is indeed a joke, I guess I know. It is about the stones related to some part of the Devil's body.  

Just keep silient please. Maybe it is not polite and friendly to the christians