OK,OK,猪感冒来源于中国zt

纽约时报给出理由:
1。 历史上的流感病毒大多由中国南部引起
2。 中国政府不透明,即使猪流感在中国发生了,他们也不会公开。
总结,猪流感可能由中国引起。

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/world/asia/29swine.html?_r=1&hpw
The Naming of Swine Flu, a Curious Matter
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By KEITH BRADSHER
Published: April 28, 2009
HONG KONG — What to call the new strain of flu raising alarms around the
world has taken on political, economic and diplomatic overtones.
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Pork producers question whether the term “swine flu” is appropriate, given that pigs so far do not seem to be falling ill. Government officials in Thailand, one of the world’s largest meat exporters, have started referring to the disease as “Mexican flu.” An Israeli deputy health minister — an ultra-Orthodox Jew — said his country would do the same, to keep Jews from having to say the word “swine.” However, his call seemed to have been largely ignored.
The World Organization for Animal Health, which handles veterinary issues around the world, issued a statement late Monday suggesting that the new disease should be labeled “North American influenza,” in keeping with a long medical tradition of naming influenza pandemics for the regions where they were first identified. This has included the Spanish flu of 1918 to 1919, the Asian flu of 1957 to 1958 and the Hong Kong flu of 1967 to 1968.
The debate is likely to continue as scientists and health authorities try to trace the disease. While all signs now point to Mexico as the epicenter,the genetic material in the virus there was a swine influenza virus of Eurasian origin. And influenza viruses tend to emerge from Asia.
Prime Minister Wen Jiabao of China called for stepped up measures on Tuesday  to prevent and control any possible cases of swine flu that might show up in the country.
Many medical historians believe that the Asian and Hong Kong flus started in southeastern China near Hong Kong, where very high densities of people live  in close proximity to hogs and chickens in rural areas and can share their viruses. Some historians also suggest that the Spanish flu also started in southeastern China.
But flu specialists in Asia said that the new virus probably did not make the jump from animals to people in Asia.
“If that is the case, you would see a lot of infections in Asia by now,” said Subash Morzaria, the regional manager for Asia and the Pacific at the Emergency Center for Transboundary Diseases, which is part of the United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organization.
The neuraminidase genetic segment of the virus, which gives the virus its “N1” name and controls the ability of the virus to break out of infected cells, comes from a Eurasian strain of swine flu, Dr. Yuen Kwok-yung, a microbiologist at Hong Kong University. But he added that so many pigs are moved across national borders that it is impossible to place the location more precisely. On the other hand, pigs carry many diseases and rules regarding their import are export are strict.
There seems little indication of any outbreak of the new flu in China. There have been no recent surges in illnesses among pigs or pig farmers,according to Ben Boake, the executive vice president of the Henan Zhongpin Food Company Ltd., one of China’s largest pork processors.
Millions of pigs died in China two years ago in an epidemic so severe that it pushed pork prices up 90 percent. Veterinarians attributed the deaths at the time mainly to blue-ear disease, which does not affect humans, but also to swine flu. The Chinese government did not issue a public report assessing the outbreak and provided very few details to international organizations.
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本帖最后由 goober 于 2009-4-29 10:04 编辑

真是如转帖者所云的吗?
其实,根本没有说什么”即使爆发,也不会公开“的话!为什么要强行给人添上裁赃之名呢?

好久没读英文了,今天且温习一下吧。

文章的标题是《流感的命名:值得追究》,如果要抹黑中国,为什么不直接放在标题说呢?这本是指桑骂槐的最方便作法啊!
看正文,主要讲的是流感的名字之争,泰国为了不想被指为发源地,命之为墨西哥流感,以色列亦有人建议如此命名,避免犹太人提到猪。然后从命名之争说到追查病毒来源。历史上许多以大规模流行地来命名的病毒,可能多源发于中国。然而墨西哥驻中国外交官员又认为病毒来自欧亚大陆,并非原产自墨西哥。亚洲学者则认为,病毒从兽传到人,并不一定是在亚洲完成的。而基因学则有证据表明病毒至少有一部分是源于亚洲的。不过,香港学者又说,由于猪流动频繁,所以病毒起源国难以确认。
最后,文章说,中国最近几乎没有(little)新流感的迹象。而我们的一位猪肉行业的老总说,最近中国养猪业也没有大(have no been)规模流行的疾病。或许对这一点有所质疑,作者在结尾指出,两年前的蓝耳病导致猪肉价格上涨(这也是我国官方承认的),而中国政府当时并没有(did not)向国际组织提供具体情况。

文章引用得很周到,在地域和专业领域方面并无偏颇,结尾也很含蓄,根本没有什么”总结,猪流感可能由中国引起“这样的意思,至于Sars期间那次臭名昭著的瞒报,更是只字未提。
如果有人从以上这样的叙述中看出”即使爆发,也不会公开“的意思,那多半是对政府的惯常作为愧疚犹在,心虚所致吧。
老是指责他们别有用心,其实是自己不知不觉带着这种别有用心去解读他人的一切文字:
太 累 了 吧。

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本帖最后由 insectide 于 2009-4-29 09:48 编辑

1。 历史上的流感病毒大多由中国南部引起
2。 中国政府不透明,即使猪流感在中国发生了,他们也不会公开。
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不管猪流感是不是起于中国,这两点是事实,是我们要反思和改进的。

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本帖最后由 goober 于 2009-4-29 09:25 编辑

其中涉及中国的一段,是引用”医学史家“的观点,说,历史上大多数是流感病毒来自中国南方,这是一个科学界的定论,我国官方也并不否认。请看

”我国人口密度大,被全世界公认为流感的多发地之一,甚至是流
感病毒新毒株的起源地,1988年以来,世界卫生组织(WHO)每年公
布的流感疫苗病毒株约有一半来自中国。中国已成为世界流感监测的
前哨!昨天,卫生部疾病控制局肖东楼副局长坦言,20世纪以来流感
已经有过四次全球范围内的大流行:1918年—1920年西班牙流感大流
行;1957年—1958年亚洲流感大流行;1968年—1969年香港流感大流
行;1997年香港禽流感流行。而最近的三次较大规模的流感疫情全部
都起源于我国。因此中外专家预测下次流感大暴发很有可能仍从我国
开始,尤其是我国南部地区。“

http://wsj.cbs.gov.cn/cmsweb/webportal/W2467/A40906.html

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LS两位显然没有在人类社会待过,连人话都听不懂

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真好笑!三楼的In跟四楼的go难道脑袋中了猪流感病毒短路了么?
我就猜着:只要是美国人说鸡蛋是树上长出来的,他们一准会附和说“上面可不还长着把呢么”。

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”LS两位显然没有在人类社会待过,连人话都听不懂“

——
在国内的媒体上,说老实话,听到人话的机会有限。
在有着优良传统的中国媒体的熏陶下,有人以为,所谓人话,就是”亩产万斤“,”我国没有发生Sars“,”中国幸福指数世界第一“,”震区灾民情绪稳定“,”我国绝大多数食品是安全的“,”林嘉祥抓住陈小朋友的肩膀用力过度“,等等。
这些人话,恕老子实在听不懂。我以为那是P话。
我还以为,听惯了这些话的人,便常常喜欢从真正的人话那里听出P来。
这倒也罢了,你喜欢闻,我着什么急?但是要利用转帖真的把自己的P放上去,污染视听,那我可不干。

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真是如转帖者所云的吗?
其实,根本没有说什么”即使爆发,也不会公开“的话!为什么要强行给人添上裁赃之名呢?

好久没读英文了,今天且温习一下吧。

文章的标题是《流感的命名:值得追究》,如果要抹黑中国 ...
goober 发表于 2009-4-29 09:03

楼主的题目就是故意让人觉着西方对中国有偏见,为仇视西方添砖加瓦。

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本帖最后由 goober 于 2009-4-29 10:01 编辑

“只要是美国人说鸡蛋是树上长出来的,他们一准会附和说“上面可不还长着把呢么”。

——当然不会。因为我发帖反驳美国人,没人来逮捕我,以诽谤罪起诉我;我上街破口骂美国人,没人来逮捕我,以扰乱治安罪起诉我。
但是,要是我在国内,看到央视突然改口说,我国奶制品没有三聚氰安,那么,我倒是十有八九肯定要“一准附和”的。估计楼上这位脑袋不是因为中了猪流感病毒短路的老兄,或许也会的吧,而且还会说,“他们可不还喝了把呢么”
  

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真好笑!三楼的In跟四楼的go难道脑袋中了猪流感病毒短路了么?
我就猜着:只要是美国人说鸡蛋是树上长出来的,他们一准会附和说“上面可不还长着把呢么”。
叶子的天空 发表于 2009-4-29 09:47

流感大多起源中国和中国政府喜爱隐瞒疫情难道不是事实吗?为什么不能认识错误、改正错误,而是掩耳盗铃不承认呢?

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